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My dog has just had a new litter of lovely poodle pups that were delivered via c section today, the mother is still not interested in the pups and still very sleepy.
but lucky for me her mother had pups back in March and still has milk from way back then because my kitten keeped drinking from her, I dont think she has much milk left now but will she get more milk supply with the pups drinking from her It is so cool to see a grandma feeding her pups please help
and please no time wasters thanks.
And yes in case you ask I will be trying to put the pups back with there mother through the night
Ooh yeah forgot to add that I am also suppliment feeding them wouldnt leave it all to the grandma
Please note again the mother is not interested in her pups
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6 responses so far ↓
1 lavachk1 // Jul 6, 2008
As long as the mother is nursing, she will have supply for the pups. If she stops nursing for a certain amount of time then the milk will stop producing.
2 tassiequartz // Jul 6, 2008
the mother should be feeding the puppys. and it is slighty wrong that your kitten is drinking from the older dog..
you should be bottle feeding if the mother wont feed them or at least suppliment feeding to help mum along.. go talk to your vet about the mother and puppys..
3 Fields of Gold // Jul 6, 2008
You must start to put the puppies to the mother's teats to suckle even if she is still sleepy. Their suckling will stimulate her to produce the milk. She should feed her own puppies, she needs to bond with them. It would not be right for her mother to feed them. They are protected by their own mother's antibodies against germs while she is nursing them and the other dog could easily bring in some infection to them.
They need to be kept separate from other dogs and be with their own mother. She will have plenty of milk for them and if you don't allow them to suckle from her you are depriving them of the colostrum which is the first thing the mother produces for the puppies before her milk comes in.
Make sure she always has a plentiful supply of water. This helps with her milk production.
It is not a good idea to let your kitten feed from the older dog.
You are not giving her a chance to let her milk dry up and by allowing the kitten to suckle her you are going to drain this dog of all her energy.
When the mother has had a good sleep after her operation she will be just fine and quite capable to feeding her puppies. Just get them on those teats asap It will not hurt her. I have seen plenty of females who have just had a Caesarean feeding their puppies immediately after their operation, in fact the Vet insists on it.
Good luck with your litter.
4 WannaKnow! // Jul 6, 2008
Okay, you should bottle feed them and not allow them to feed from their grandmother. I understand that she has no interest but you should keep trying to get her to connect… She needs them to feed them to keep both her and the pups healthy. Try putting them by her and allowing her to get used to them being around. If after a few days she still doesn't allow them to feed take her and the pups to the vet. See what they say. Good Luck. = )
5 Alesis Chis // Jul 6, 2008
It's very common for a b*tch to be disinterested in her litter following a C-section, even more so if it's her first. What you need to do is hold the mother down to allow the pups to nurse. It will take a couple of days for her instincts to kick in so she starts caring for them on her own, but it won't happen at all if she doesn't nurse them herself. Don't take the easy way out & either try to get your other b*tch to re-lactate or bottle feed. I'm going through the same exhausting process right now, but it's the commitment I made when I made the decision to breed. Don't forget that you'll need to stimulate the pups yourself to get them to eliminate. Those pups need colostrum (which they won't get from your other b*tch) right away so you need to get going!
6 Annie // Jul 6, 2008
Your vet should have prepared you for this.
Mom should NOT be sleepy this long after the section.
Regardless, when pups are born via c-section, the moms are often a bit confused. The medications plus not having gone through the birth, they are unsure of what the pups are.
STAY WITH HER. She can't be with the pups a moment until you're sure she's completely "with it" and not aggressive toward the pups!
Mark and weigh the pups. Record the weights.
Now put the pup on her. Hold her head if necessary. Their nursing should stimulate milk production. Keep at it, every two hours let them nurse for at least 20 minutes. If they aren't getting anything, tube feed for that feeding, and try again in 2 hours.
Have mom wash the little butts. Hold the pups, one at a time, with the butt right at her face and encourage her to lick it. When she does, you are moving in the right direction. Have her lick each little butt.
Watch for any signs of aggression toward the pups. Often they will bump the pup hard with their nose before they try to grab and shake them.
It usually takes 24-48 hours before they realize these are their pups. Persevere!!! Most times it gets better.
If you don't see milk coming in, contact your vet for a shot to let the milk come. If it doesn't come after a few days of letting them try to nurse and the shot….well thank goodness there's grandma and tube feeding. It's cheapest to buy puppy formula in 5 lb tubs from KV Vet supply.
Worst comes to worst, let grandma take care of the litter. But don't give up yet — give it 24-48 hours!!